What happened to Textmate 2?

What happened to Textmate 2?

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Apr 14 '09 at 4:19
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I was pretty sure that over the past 4 months a message was posted on the mailing list, which strongly implied or explicitly stated that by the summer of 2009 there would be at least a beta version, but I was not able to dig it out, so I'm not sure.

Honestly, I'm really not worried about TextMate. Of course, I would like to see it, because new material is always cool; but, in my opinion, only two great features are missing in TextMate - split-panel viewing and better undo support - and I found that I could live without them. TextMate 2 is likely to be awesome, but the current TextMate is such a great editor that I don't want TM2 to come out.

Update: Public Alpha Available

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Apr 14 '09 at 5:26
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From the wiki :

Q: Is TextMate 2 still in development or has it been abandoned?

TM2 is actively developing. If this text is still here, it is still so. (Last updated April 7, 2009. Allan stresses that the release is "around the corner" is still missing.)

Posted by Allan Odgaard, updated the TextMate blog post :

Work with her

Over the past two years, posts on this blog have slowed down to the smallest detail, and some TextMate users have asked about the status of TextMates or have publicly worried about their future. This blog post, the first Ive written here for a long time, is an attempt to calm these problems and answer some of the most common questions.

In short, the development of TextMate is in full swing: TextMate 2 has not yet been made, but progress is steady, it is starting to take shape, and the end is in sight. Rewriting was a slow and thorough process, but the ideas behind it were exciting. I hope to publicly describe some of the new abstractions in the coming weeks and months. In addition, the community continues to release new packages and features for TextMate 1.5, and Ive created a pool of messages describing them. Although I am not writing to announce a release date for TextMate 2, I hope this post becomes the first in a series showing a bit more transparency.

Queries for TextMate 1 mainly include incremental additions such as split views, undo undo, and SFTP editing. But TextMate 2 is more than new surface features. Each part was completely rewritten to take advantage of the lessons learned from the years of version 1. Not only were low-level data structures selected for greater flexibility, but the abstractions on which TextMate fragments were embedded, language-based language grammars, context-sensitive settings were rethought and more powerful than ever. In the coming months I will try to describe some of these new abstractions, but so far I know that I am very happy with new ideas.

So where is development 2.0? It seems to me that most modules are approaching, say, 90%. But as they say, on the horizon the mountains look small. Although I use 2.0 for my own work, day after day, and the basic infrastructure is quite solid, most of the interfaces still need work, and at the moment it all lacks a string and polishing of the finished application. We hope that the alpha version will be ready for too long, but I can not do any promises about the dates.

And why couldn’t I better inform the world? This is a combination of many things in fact, but the main problem is that I do not know how to write a large audience. I relate more to informal conversations, such as mailing lists or IRC. Therefore, when I started a lot of posts, I ended up unhappy with them halfway, and they do not end or are not published. I’m taking action: I enlisted a technical writer to help revitalize this blog, and I will try to convey to him the status and direction of TextMates.

More than any of these problems, although, as I mentioned, it is that TextMate 2 is not a slight facelift. Its large enterprise with a long term and its final form is not fully regulated. I do not want to joke with the steam engine, and I do not want to receive any hopes before I find out that I can live up to their expectations.

In addition, I did not want to throw ideas on the Internet, not being able to implement them myself. Im put up with the fact that TextMate served as an inspiration for many other products, and I hope that it will continue to be a model for other developers in the future, but I want my ideas to go my way before I feed them to the competition .

I am trying to slowly turn this boat. In this post, I hope to show that the hand is behind the wheel. I know that I have been silent for too long about my plans. I cannot compensate for this, but as I move forward, I try to do better.

And here is the official blog post that says the public alpha will be released before Christmas 2011. http://blog.macromates.com/2011/whats-next/

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Apr 18 '09 at 4:19
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Allan Odgaard (October 24, 2007):

[...] there is no ETA, and I will not talk about the timing before I am sure that I can provide (alpha / beta) release within the next month - because in fact I say more, the more people ask, to answer the same questions again and again (for me) mentally exhausting. So add TM 2.0 up there with Duke Nukem Forever and positively surprised the day it is released :)

The last thing I heard was in private alpha. Just remember: patience is a virtue. :)

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Apr 14 '09 at 4:35
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Here's a recent posting on the mailing list by Allan Odgaard. It sheds a little light on the current state of development.

In short, do not expect anything soon.

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Jun 17 '10 at 21:05
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Well, it's been 1 1/2 years since this question. And no update. And no news.

I am switching from textmate. Shame indeed, because it was the best editor on the Mac. But hell even a snowboard missed it.

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Oct. 15 '10 at 8:28
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The author of TextMate was hired by MacRabbit (company behind the editor of Espresso), so it may be that Espresso will become the next TextMate (this is real shame ..)

He does not say that anywhere in the article. Also, this is simply not true. MacRabbit is also a 1-person company, such as MacroMates. The developer of Textmate lives in Denmark; MacRabbit lives in Belgium.

Expresso is a different editor, not Textmate 2.

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May 2 '09 at 10:31
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I hardly believe that this is true, but I just read that it is scheduled for release in late October 2010.

http://wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2

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07 Oct '10 at 17:04
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not quite a direct answer to this question, but since I just signed up for an account and have no comments to comment on the answer (or, as it turned out, include more than one hyperlink), I will leave my review here for Pavel and Vasil:

You should definitely check out the Ciarán ReMate Update plugin for TextMate, as it was invaluable to me while working with NFS.

I also highly recommend Ciarán another TextMate plugin, ProjectPlus (ciaranwal.sh/projectplus)

One last plugin for Ciarán ... most likely due to the fact that he developed some great plugins for TM1, he was also hired by Allan (wiki.macromates.com/FAQ/TextMate2) to work with TextMate 2

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Aug 18 '09 at 23:49
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In fact, there is no excuse in the world that could convince that textmate 2 is not passive.

Even if he secretly coded an editor to destroy all the other editors, the number of years passed and the absence of any real evidence of anything solid indicate poor development methods and a lack of product manufacturing experience.

Unfortunately, it seems that textmate 1 was random, and texmate 2 is the software worlds of Chinese democracy ...

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Nov 09 '10 at 2:55
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It seems to me that it is sad that this question remains one of the best elements of Google search when searching for TextMate 2 information, but it is filled with rumors and insinuations.

They work diligently on it , and what they are trying to do is very difficult. Give them a break. I even wrote an article about this: In TextMate 2

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Aug 01 2018-11-12T00:
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A new post today with the headline What's next on MacroMates official blogs (bold accent with me):

There has been a lot of thought and awe in TextMate lately about the future of TextMate, mainly about whether there will be another major release. Work on 2.0 has begun, and although we wish it could be completed faster, we are very pleased with how it turns out. Finally, development has reached the point where we can make an announcement:

This year, before Christmas, there will be a public alpha release for registered users.

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Sep 26 '11 at 13:36
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I predict now that he is going to surprise everyone and give us a present for Christmas this year.

It would be a great opportunity for him to release a relatively polished non-beta for Christmas and see how everyone in the world goes to the monkey.

Mark my words. 10 days.

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Dec 15 '10 at 12:59
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TextMate was hired by MacRabbit (the company behind the Espresso editor), so it may be that Espresso will be the next TextMate (this is a real shame ..)

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Apr 14 '09 at 5:16
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